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Spider Concept by IgnisFerroque Spider Concept by IgnisFerroque
I normally dont post unfinished stuff, but i probably feel an urge to get some advice on this one. I´m pretty happy with how the design worked out. There isnt much i would like to change, although some parts are yet missing and the legs in the front arent in the right position.

The point is: This is meant to be part of a scene i wanted to do and due to the limitations of my computer i somehow feel i wont be able to complete it this way. This rendering here took 25 hours (!), in 1024 and i wont even think about the whole scene. I know that the Dirt Shader needs an enormous amount of rendering time, but i like how it looks, so i´d prefer to keep it. So i need some advices to keep my design but to simplify the modellig perhaps. I just have a 400 MHz machine and this is almost the end of what was possible.

The bodyparts were created using Hypernurbs in Cinema 4D, the legs with Extrude nurbs (and relief borders), is there a way to simplify it without losing too much aspects? Or a method more adequate than my used one?

UPDATE:
Finally changed the leg positions, added several smaller elements like those pipes at the back. Arms are still missing, i have a finished model but my computer refuses to render it :P I only get a white shape of where the spider should be...

Anyway, i need comments wether the changes are improvements or not please :)
I think i will update the older version to my scraps later on...

Also:
This picture is ought to participate on some kind of rpg (?) in progress, so if you´re interested, take a look at [link]
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:iconmystdream:
mystdream Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
wow
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011   Digital Artist
thx ;)
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:iconnils-iver:
Nils-Iver Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Fun
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011   Digital Artist
Thanks ;)
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:iconsaperlipop:
saperlipop Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2008
This is one impressive spider! :wow:
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:iconnetreaper:
NetReaper Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2008
WANT!!!!
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2008   Digital Artist
Hehe, thanks ;)
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:iconbordertowndirector:
BorderTownDirector Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2008
O.o *drools* i want i want! that's amazing!
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2008   Digital Artist
Thanks alot, also for the fav! :)
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:iconheckonearth:
Heckonearth Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2008
pretty awesome!
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:iconsircula:
SirCula Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
very very cool! didnt this take ages to UVmap?
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2007   Digital Artist
Didnt change anything about the UV maps since its quite a plain texture anyway. All standard cubic mapping ;)

Thanks :)
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:icondiesel74656:
Diesel74656 Featured By Owner May 19, 2007  Professional General Artist
Total cool. Ich bin beeindruckt.
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner May 19, 2007   Digital Artist
Vielen Dank. :)

Eigentlich war das nur mal als Teil einer Szene geplant, ist aber irgendwie nie was draus geworden ;)
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:icondiesel74656:
Diesel74656 Featured By Owner May 19, 2007  Professional General Artist
Das kenn ich. Mir passiert das immer, wenn ich mich zu sehr auf einen Tei konzentriere und da dann so viel Arbeit reinstecke, dass ich keine Lust mehr hab, auch noch den Rest zu machen.
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner May 21, 2007   Digital Artist
naja, scheitert bei mir eher an Rechenleistung ;)
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:icondiesel74656:
Diesel74656 Featured By Owner May 23, 2007  Professional General Artist
Ja, blöd, wenn einem die eigene Hardware Grenzen setzt.
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:iconreal-horrorshow:
Real-Horrorshow Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2006
Woof! That's one badass spider!
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:iconchris-t:
Chris-T Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2006  Student Interface Designer
Unfinished? it looks great!
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2006   Digital Artist
Thanks :)

Its unfinished because it still lacks arms... or.. whatever those things on spiders are called ;)
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:iconthecoconutguy:
TheCoconutGuy Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2006
I'd be happy if you could link to my journal ( [link] ) here in the description, thank you :)
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2006   Digital Artist
Ich habs mal dazugeschrieben...
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:iconthecoconutguy:
TheCoconutGuy Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2006
hahaha cool danke :) lol ich habs gar nicht gewusst das du auch aus good ol' g kommst ;P
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2006   Digital Artist
Auf die Userpage gucken hilft ;)

Werden die Bilder dann noch in PS überarbeitet zu irgendnem gemeinsamen Stil? Verschiedene Kunstarten in einem Projekt könnte was inhomogen wirken oder?
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:iconthecoconutguy:
TheCoconutGuy Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2006
ja, das muss ich mal schauen. im moment bin ich am sammeln, und ich lass mich stark davon inspirieren. letztendlich muss ich das ja noch übersetzen und dann als html verpacken, irgendwie. also mit der überlegung is noch zeit :) aber danke für den hinweis.
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2006   Digital Artist
Achso... na dann noch viel erfolg beim sammeln ;)
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:iconthecoconutguy:
TheCoconutGuy Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2006
hihi danke.. :) hab jetzt schon 52 stück zusammen
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:iconmoniqueamber:
moniqueamber Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2006
wow i hate spiders and this picture makes is so life like it makes me cringe, congrats:D
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2006   Digital Artist
Thanks :)
I dont like spiders either... but atleast i can look at them now without getting panic ;)
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:iconthecoconutguy:
TheCoconutGuy Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2006
hey wow. you ever played "Arcanum"???? well, I am developing a pen&;paper roleplaying game, working title "the world of jules verne" and well, there are machines like this. now I wanted to ask you if I could use this picture in my game. its a non-profit game, btw, and still not ready. (it might be downloadable when its ready, but for free ;) ) please note me if or if not I can use this, allright? thanks a million!
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2006   Digital Artist
well.. i guess it would be ok if you credit me somewhere... but this picture is still unfinished. I have a quite completed version but no computer to render it :P
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:iconthecoconutguy:
TheCoconutGuy Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2006
oh allright :) well, of course you'll get credit, thats for sure.
maybe if you have it rendered, you can give me the link?? :aww:

and thanks a million!!!
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2006   Digital Artist
Well thats the problem, my computer wont render it, too slow, not enough ram... i´ll see what i can do in the next time i think. I want to finish it anway :P
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:iconthecoconutguy:
TheCoconutGuy Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2006
allrighty then :D
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:iconl-x:
L-X Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2006
I absolutely love this. The material is great... where did you get it? Or did you make it?

*Drools*
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2006   Digital Artist
Its just a brass colored material and a fusion of a reddish brass pipe texture (dont know where i got this) with the Dirt Shader in the diffusion channel. + Metal-like reflection and a the standard metal shader as bump map. I think the main effect is because of the dirt shader, i love this thing. Unfortunately the rendition times are abou 10x more here with it :P

Thanks for commenting :)
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Portador-de-Tormenta Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
wow... I came here because I liked the space ship and found the spider because someone mentioned it there... I love 3D and I am addicted to spiders. This one goes straight to my favs!!
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2006   Digital Artist
you actually like spiders? I have some kind of phobia about them i think :D

Thanks for your comment and your fav... I still hope to come up with a final version of that picture some day, but glad you like it :)
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Portador-de-Tormenta Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:) btw, I read you have some troubles with the dirt plugin. Don't know if you already solved it. What I do in this cases is baking the textures. I use texture baker a lot, I've even baked shadows and radiosity into the objects texture. Saves hundres hours of rendering. You just calculate it once and the baker plugin turns everything into the texture of the object and that's it, no more calculations. Hope it help!
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2006   Digital Artist
Dunno, i use the dirt shader in the diffusion channel of the texture, not the other one, is it possible with my method? I´ll have a look when i find the time...
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brimu Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2005
Nice itzi spider you have there, the details look really awesome, you just might want to make the shadows a bit harder. Oh and the light looks absolutly fabulous.

greetz brimu
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2005   Digital Artist
Yes the lightning turned out kinda nice, although i didnt pay much attention to it actually, i´m somehow afraid it will look worse in the actual scene, as this is just a concept ;)

I should work on it but was to lazy lately and its really not fun anymore on my computer its more like guessing than modelling ;) :p

Thanks for your comment :)
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:iconbluespeed9:
bluespeed9 Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2005  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wonderful modelling, the level of detail that you've incorporated really makes the difference. :thumbsup:
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2005   Digital Artist
Thanks :)

I just hope i can do a whole scene that fits the style...
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geeny Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2005
This "thing" looks so cool! Very creative. I wouldn't even be scared of it, although I am of any spider (today I woke up screaming aloud because I dreamt a spider was attacking me :O_o: ), because this one looks more like an insect-like hybrid with eight legs. There's a special thing about spiders that makes we wanna scream and run away immediately, and that is not the case with this one. Which is good in my opinion, but if you want to go for the real "spider-look" the body should be lower than the legs, more like it is hanging from the legs instead of being supported by them. If you get what I mean ;) But probably you already used an anatomy reference and I'm just being odd :)
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:iconignisferroque:
IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2005   Digital Artist
YOU are afraid of spiders? I would never have thought that ;)
My "inspiration" wasnt a dream. My parents were away one weekend and all out of the sudden all those spiders and ... well, dunno the word for Schnake... "fast, flying, assault versions of spiders, although not related in a biological way" decided to hunt me down. :P
They fortunately paid their price. But, i decided to make this thing, which is good. Its kinda neat, like those stupid Sony pet dogs, the smoke is a bit of a problem though, atleast indoor. I thought about adding weapons. Or a camera. It would actually be a really good photograph robot because it can handle the camera and the light sources at the same time ;)

I know about the body. Perhaps its because of the perspective, but the body is quite near to the ground actually... dunno. Its unfinished btw. My reference were those wolf spiders, we had one in the cellar once :P


Well, thanks for your comment...
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:icongeeny:
geeny Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2005
We have a lot of craneflies (schnaken) here too, but strangely enough, they don't scare me at all. I don't count their legs or look for the wings, but still I know that they aren't spiders and don't freak out if they touch me. It's like an intuitive thing. Strange, isn't it? And my intuition tells me that your robot isn't a spider (That odd vehicle in Wild Wild West did though...). But it's still VERY cool, those little details are amazing. And they look like a hell lot of work :O_o:
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IgnisFerroque Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2005   Digital Artist
Well, yeah strange.. you might be odd ;)
I just hate it when the screens are the only light sources at night and those stupid monstrosities suddenly appear in front of me :P

Well, thanks, but no, it wasnt that much work. fortunately enough, i seem to work quite efficient when i have an actual idea in my mind (2 times a year approximately) ... and, besides, i have way too much time anyway :P
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geeny Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2005
If you say so :P
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Electrostatic Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2005
Can't help much with C4D as I use Rhino. But that is a most wonderfully detailed creation.
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